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My closing thoughts on the "retirement" issue

Yesterday I posted a piece on the “retired sannyasi” idea. There was some GREAT discussion and that’s wonderful. I’m glad I can help provide such a forum.

I also think it’s great that there is a lot of support for Satsvarupa. Our first reaction when we hear about a devotee falling down should be to help them.

But overall, I’m fairly unthrilled about this “retired sannyasi” concept.

There are guidelines for being a sannyasi. These guidelines exist from the first day of sannyasa initiation until death (or until stepping down, I suppose). The guidelines are there in sastra and we have Srila Prabhupada’s example. Those guidelines are strict. They should be strict.

If a devotee thinks that those sastric guidelines are too strict for him to follow, that’s perfectly alright. I’ve got no problem with that. Simply don’t be a sannyasi. If you don’t think you can hack it, don’t become one. And if you do become one and find you can’t hack it, either become qualified or change ashramas.

This wishy washy in between stuff waters down the philosophy and makes us look silly. The obligatory cover-ups make us look cult-like. Actually, it flat out makes us a cult.

Our first priority with every devotee should be to cultivate their bhakti. That has zero to do with being in a certain ashrama. Actually, with the glorification that comes with being a sannyasi, maybe it would be better to be honest and leave that ashrama than to stay on presenting yourself as a self-realized soul fit to bring thousands back to Godhead.

This Satsvarupa ordeal is setting a dangerous precedence. There are now an official ISKCON positions called “retired sannyasi” and “retired diksa guru.” This is freaky and bizarre and ridiculously unnecessary. If ISKCON chooses to go down this road, it will find itself farther and farther away from how it was initially established by Srila Prabhupada.

Do we want this?

In other news…

I’m taking off for a bit. Closing the store for a few days and heading to West Virginia. I’ll be there from Dec 31 to January 7ish.

I’ve always wanted to close the store to go on vacation. And since I’m soon rid of the store, I figure that I better hop to it, right?

There will be posts every day, including Ekadasi (Thursday) and Saturday’s tape. Needless to say, correspondence will be few and far between. Hope that’s ok.

So here I go!

What exactly is a retired sannyasi?

This is sort of about Satsvarupa’s most recent letter about his fall down and about GBC’s punishments for that fall down. They claim that “Satsvarupa dasa Goswami (SDG) will assume the status of retired sannyasi and retired disksa guru.” If you’re not familiar with it, go here.

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I have a friend who is a retired professor. He used to be a professor, but not anymore. He’s retired.

I guess this can apply to a retired diksa guru. He used to be a guru, but not anymore. He’s … retired. On second thought, that does sound weird. But I can at least wrap my head around it.

And while there are a bunch of ex-diksa gurus, as far as I know, only one retired diksa guru (SDG). I think there must be some important difference going on there, I’m just not sure what it is.

retired-warning.jpgAn ex-diksa guru’s disciples take shelter of another guru (or more than likely just leave). But a retired diksa guru’s disciples are still his disciples. They can take shelter of him as guru, even though he isn’t qualified to make more disciples. Sort of guru-lite, I guess.

This was all a little confusing until I tried to figure out what a “retired sannyasi” was. Then it got downright surreal.

Applying the same logic of “I used to be a sannyasi, but now I’m not… I’m retired” seems like it would work. There are many ex-sanyasis in ISKCON. But with SDG, he seems to still be a sannyasi (and thus not an ex-sannyasi). I guess I’m not really sure why or how or what they’re even trying to get at here.

What exactly does a “retired sannyasi” do? How does that work? Wouldn’t that just be… a householder… sort of? Typically, when a sannyasi falls down (and admits it), he either totally leaves Krishna consciousness, or (hopefully) sticks around, puts on white, gets married and becomes a normal and often fairly likable devotee.

But what the heck is going on here?

Is a retired sannyasi different from an ex-sannyasi? How? And more importantly, why? Is a retired sannyasi still to be called “maharaja”? Or do we call him “prabhu”? Do we bow down to him or just offer him the respects afforded any vaisnava? And if we are supposed to treat him like a sannyasi, what’s the point of being retired?

And another thing… concerning Satsvarupa das… Goswami/Prabhu (depending on the answers to my questions), what does this do to the validity of Srila Prabhupada Lilamrta? Will ISKCON still be recognizing this work as bona fide?

I remember when the devotee who wrote The Seventh Goswami (Biography on Bhaktivinoda Thakura) fell down (or left ISKCON, I can’t remember which). Immediately, we were urged to not read that book, even though, prior to the fall down/leaving, we were encouraged to read it. So, are we going to be urged not to read Lilamrta? Or is this fall down somehow not as bad as other fall downs? retireddressed.jpg

I’m not trying to be snarky, these really are honest questions. I think some guidelines on what to do when popular devotees fall down is in order. Since Satsvarupa admits to behavior not fitting of a sannyasi since 1978, does this nix nearly all of his bibliography? Are we still allowed to read it? Should it still be considered bona fide?

And lastly, will someone please tell me how we are supposed to know when someone is pure. Yes, I know, sastra will tell us, Krishna will tell us. But we mostly what we do is rely upon the GBC to help us. And, no offense, but… their track record isn’t all that great in this respect. So, what should I do?

Oh, and just a statement. In Krishna consciousness, we have a lot of rules. Most of us don’t follow all of them. Is there any way we could just be honest about that for once? I think we’d all be a lot happier.

Classic ISKCON Tape #10 – Radha Damodara Traveling Sankirtan Party

I’m, of course, way too young to have been a part of the Radha Damodara Traveling Sankirtan Party. And honestly, I don’t know much about it – mostly just from Srila Prabhupada Memories DVDs and the random story here and there.

There’s also a huge book about it.

Nevertheless, I’ve got a tape full of RDTSKP just for you!

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KT-10 Radha Damodara Traveling Sakirtana Party Kirtans

w/ Vishnujana Swami

And again, thanks to Brian, I’ve got scans of the original tapes to share with you. Haribol!

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This is the track list, which is quite different from the original tape (pictured above). This is from the BBT rerelease of the tape (as all of mine are).

1) Govinda Jaya Jaya
2) Sadha Bhakata
3) Gaur Nityananda Bol
4) Kabe Habe Bolo Sabi Nam
5) Gopinath
6) Manasa Deha Geha
7) Sri Rupa Manjan 8) Jai Sachinandana
9) Han Haraye Namah
10) Kirtan

This is some good stuff. What kirtans should sound like.

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The Significance of the Bhagavad-gita by Thomas Merton

This was the introduction to the 1968 Collier Edition of the Bhagavad-gita: As It Is by Srila Prabhupada. Madhava Gosh made mention of this yesterday, so here it is!

The word Gita means “Song.” Just as in the Bible the Song of Solomon has traditionally been known as “The Song of Songs” because it was interpreted to symbolize the ultimate union of Israel with God (in terms of human married love), so The Bhagavad Gita is, for Hinduism, the great and unsurpassed Song that finds the secret of human life in the unquestioning surrender to and awareness of Krishna.

While The Vedas provide Hinduism with its basic ideas of cult and sacrifice and The Upanishads develop its metaphysic of contemplation, The Bhagavad Gita can be seen as the great treatise on the “Active Life.” But it is really something more, for it tends to fuse worship, action and contemplation in a fulfillment of daily duty which transcends all three by virtue of a higher consciousness: a consciousness of acting passively, of being an obedient instrument of a transcendent will. The Vedas, The Upanishads, and The Gita can be seen as the main literary supports for the great religious civilization of India, the oldest surviving culture in the world. The fact that The Gita remains utterly vital today can be judged by the way such great reformers as Mohandas Gandhi and Vinoba Bhave both spontaneously based their lives and actions on it, and indeed commented on it in detail for their disciples. The present translation and commentary is another manifestation of the permanent living importance of The Gita. Swami Bhaktivedanta brings to the West a salutary reminder that our highly activistic and one-sided culture is faced with a crisis that may end in self-destruction because it lacks the inner depth of an authentic metaphysical consciousness. Without such depth, our moral and political protestations are just so much verbiage. If, in the West, God can no longer be experienced as other than “dead,” it is because of an inner split and self-alienation which have characterized the Western mind in its single-minded dedication to only half of life: that which is exterior, objective, and quantitative. The “death of God” and the consequent death of genuine moral sense, respect for life, for humanity, for value, has expressed the death of an inner subjective quality of life: a quality which in the traditional religions was experienced in terms of God-consciousness. Not concentration on an idea or concept of God, still less on an image of God, but a sense of presence, of an ultimate ground of reality and meaning, from which life and love could spontaneously flower.

Realization of the Supreme “Player” whose “Play” (Lila) is manifested in the million-formed, inexhaustible richness of beings and events, is what gives us the key to the meaning of life. Once we live in awareness of the cosmic dance and move in time with the Dancer, our life attains its true dimension. It is at once more serious and less serious than the life of one who does not sense this inner cosmic dynamism. To live without this illuminated consciousness is to live as a beast of burden, carrying one’s life with tragic seriousness as a huge, incomprehensible weight (see Camus’ interpretation of the Myth of Sisyphus). The weight of the burden is the seriousness with which one takes one’s own individual and separate self. To live with the true consciousness of life centered in Another is to lose one’s self-important seriousness and thus to live life as “play” in union with a Cosmic Player. It is He alone that one takes seriously. But to take Him seriously is to find joy and spontaneity in everything, for everything is gift and grace. In other words, to live selfishly is to bear life as an intolerable burden. To live selflessly is to live in joy, realizing by experience that life itself is love and gift. To be a lover and a giver is to be a channel through which the Supreme Giver manifests His love in the world.

But The Gita presents a problem to some who read it in the present context of violence and war which mark the crisis of the West. The Gita appears to accept and to justify war. Arjuna is exhorted to submit his will to Krishna by going to war against his enemies, who are also his own kin, because war is his duty as a Prince and warrior. Here we are uneasily reminded of the fact that in Hinduism as well as in Judaism, Islam, and Christianity, there is a concept of a “Holy War” which is “willed by God” and we are furthermore reminded of the fact that, historically, this concept has been secularized and inflated beyond measure. It has now “escalated” to the point where slaughter, violence, revolution, the annihilation of enemies, the extermination of entire populations and even genocide have become a way of life. There is hardly a nation on earth today that is not to some extent committed to a philosophy or to a mystique of violence. One way or other, whether on the left or on the right, whether in defense of a bloated establishment or of an improvised guerrilla government in the jungle, whether in terms of a police state or in terms of a ghetto revolution, the human race is polarizing itself into camps armed with everything from Molotov cocktails to the most sophisticated technological instruments of death. At such a time, the doctrine that “war is the will of God” can be disastrous if it is not handled with extreme care. For everyone seems in practice to be thinking along some such lines, with the exception of a few sensitive and well-meaning souls (mostly the kind of people who will read this book).

The Gita is not a justification of war, nor does it propound a war-making mystique. War is accepted in the context of a particular kind of ancient culture in which it could be and was subject to all kinds of limitations. (It is instructive to compare the severe religious limitations on war in the Christian Middle Ages with the subsequent development of war by nation states in modern times-backed of course by the religious establishment. ) Arjuna has an instinctive repugnance for war, and that is the chief reason why war is chosen as the example of the most repellent kind of duty. The Gita is saying that even in what appears to be most “unspiritual” one can act with pure intentions and thus be guided by Krishna consciousness. This consciousness itself will impose the most strict limitations on one’s use of violence because that use will not be directed by one’s own selfish interests, still less by cruelty, sadism, and mere blood lust.

The discoveries of Freud and others in modern times have, of course, alerted us to the fact that there are certain imperatives of culture and of conscience which appear pure on the surface and are in fact bestial in their roots. The greatest inhumanities have been perpetrated in the name of “humanity,” “civilization,” “progress,” “freedom,” “my country,” and of course “God.” This reminds us that in the cultivation of an inner spiritual consciousness there is a perpetual danger of self-deception, narcissism, self-righteous evasion of truth. In other words the standard temptation of religious and spiritually minded people is to cultivate an inner sense of rightness or of peace, and make this subjective feeling the final test of everything. As long as this feeling of rightness remains with them, they will do anything under the sun. But this inner feeling (as Auschwitz and the Eichmann case have shown) can coexist with the ultimate in human corruption.

The hazard of the spiritual quest is of course that its genuineness cannot be left to our own isolated subjective judgment alone. The fact that I am turned on doesn’t prove anything whatever. (Nor does the fact that I am turned off.) We do not simply create our own lives on our own terms. Any attempt to do so is ultimately an affirmation of our individual self as ultimate and supreme. This is a self-idolatry which is diametrically opposed to “Krishna consciousness” or to any other authentic form of religious or metaphysical consciousness.

The Gita sees that the basic problem of man is his endemic refusal to live by a will other than his own. For in striving to live entirely by his own individual will, instead of becoming free, man is enslaved by forces even more exterior and more delusory than his own transient fancies. He projects himself out of the present into the future. He tries to make for himself a future that accords with his own fantasy, and thereby escape from a present reality which he does not fully accept. And yet, when he moves into the future he wanted to create for himself, it becomes a present that is once again repugnant to him. And yet this is precisely what he has “made” for himself-it is his own karma. In accepting the present in all its reality as something to be dealt with precisely as it is, man comes to grips at once with his karma and with a providential will which, ultimately, is more his own than what he currently experiences, on a superficial level, as “his own will.” It is in surrendering a false and illusory liberty on the superficial level that man unites himself with the inner ground of reality and freedom in himself which is the will of God, of Krishna, of Providence, of Tao. These concepts do not all exactly coincide, but they have much in common. It is by remaining open to an infinite number of unexpected possibilities which transcend his own imagination and capacity to plan that man really fulfills his own need for freedom. The Gita, like the Gospels, teaches us to live in awareness of an inner truth that exceeds the grasp of our thought and cannot be subject to our own control. In following mere appetite for power, we are slaves of our own appetite. In obedience to that inner truth we are at last free.

Merry Christmas, you!

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Classic ISKCON Tape #9 – Delhi Pandal Kirtans! With Yamuna Devi!

Hey folks! I don’t have a lot of time to write this out – working retail during the Christmas season. But this is a good one. You should check it out.

119 of you downloaded last Saturday’s. Thanks! That really makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

So check this out. Yamuna, Dannanath and a mess of Acyutananda! Can’t go wrong. No way, no how!

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KT-09 – Delhi Pandal Kirtans

1) Kirtan Lead by Yamuna devi
2) Kirtan Lead by Dannanath das
3) Hari Haraya Namah by Acyutananda Swami
4) Radhe Shayama by Acyutananda Swami
5) Kiba Jaya by Acyutananda Swami
6) Radha Govinda by Acyutananda Swami

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Really cool Putana & Krishna painting!

I was wandering around Etsy.com recently and came across this great painting:

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Putana and Krishna

I’ve never been a huge fan of Indian art. Sure, some is great work and I respect it, but I have never really been able to get into it. The same goes for much of the art in ISKCON books. I understand that it needs to be fairly realistic and it definitely serves the obvious purpose. But art should be interesting and daring (or if not “should” be… “can” be).

I love seeing art about Krishna, the devotees, etc., that is a bit out there. I really enjoy Sastvarupa Maharaja’s work. I think it’s really necessary that there be devotees out there expressing their devotion in such a way.

There are a few fun ones on DeviantArt.com as well.


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And my personal favorite…

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If one chants Allah or Jesus Christ, we have no objection.

When I joined the devotees, tolerance of other religions was strongly stressed. I was fairly anti-Christian to the point of being prejudiced against them (was raised Southern Baptist, so I had a history there, but still). Luckily for me, I had some good friends and family who set me straight.

For some folks, especially after 9/11 and during the War on Terror, the brunt of their bigotry is focused upon Muslims. Srila Prabhupada grew up in a country where many disliked Muslims, through a time when hatred for Muslims was very strong. But Srila Prabhupada took the higher road.

Srila Prabhupada often praised the Islamic people for their devotion. He particularly liked how they would broadcast their prayers over loud speakers and be very open about their spirituality. Prabhupada wasn’t just tolerant of Muslims, he was encouraging of them.

Some believe that the Muslim religion is trying to take over the world. This is simply untrue. Sure, a comparative handful of extremists would love that, but every religion has such unfortunate thinkers. Most importantly, we must remember that these are extremists, they are not the norm.

But let’s get to sastra and guru/sadhu…

Sri Caitanya Caritamrita, Madhya Lila, Vol.7. Lord Caitanya’s Visit to Sri Vrindavan.
The heart of that saintly Muslim softened upon seeing Sri Caitanya. He wanted to talk to Him and establish impersonal Brahman on the basis of his own scripture, the Koran. When that person established the impersonal (Formless) Brahman conception of the Absolute Truth on the basis of the Koran, Sri Caitanya refuted his argument. Whatever arguments he put forward, the Lord refuted them all. Finally the person became stunned and could not speak.

Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu said,” The Koran has certainly established impersonalism, but at the end it refutes that impersonalism and establishes the personal God.The Koran accepts the fact that ultimately there is only One God. He is full of opulence, and His bodily complexion is Blackish.”

In a purport from that Chapter, Srila Prabhupada writes:

According to the Muslim scripture, without evadat, offering prayers at a mosque or elsewhere 5 times daily (namaja), one cannot be successful in life. Sri Caitanya pointed out that in the revealed scripture of the Mohammedans, love of Godhead is the ultimate goal. Karma yoga and Jnana yoga are certainly described in the Koran, but ultimately the Koran states that the ultimate goal is the offering of prayers to the Supreme Person (evadat).

Srila Prabhupada’s words.
While reading through Vedabase to find quotes from Srila Prabhupada about Islam, it’s mind-boggling how many times Srila Prabhupada would say that it didn’t matter if someone was Christian or Muslim or Hindu, they should follow their religion and worship God.

Many times, Srila Prabhupada would tell Muslims to chant the names of “Allah.” “If one chants Allah or Jesus Christ, we have no objection. We don’t say that you stop it. We say that you chant the holy name of God. If that name is of God, you chant.” – June 9, 1974, Paris

On a morning walk in Bombay (March 27, 1974), Srila Prabhupada is arguing with “Makhanalal” who proposes “They [Muslims] have very much reputation for violence…” Srila Prabhupada and a “Dr. Patel” refute that.

Also, on April 22, 1974, Srila Prabhupada spoke “We have no very much study of the Muslim, but instead of criticizing others, better we shall preach our own cult. But if there is occasion when somebody attacks, then we should be prepared. But our positive business should be to inform people what is the nature of God, as they are stated in Bhagavad-gita and in Bhagavatam.”

It’s my opinion that we should take this teaching to heart. Generally, most of us don’t know much about the Muslim tradition, so instead of criticizing them, we should just go about our normal business.

We simply must become more tolerant of other people. Just look at how tolerant Mahaprabhu and Srila Prabhupada are! Why not follow in their footsteps?

“One who thinks himself lower than the grass, who is more tolerant than a tree, and who does not expect personal honor yet is always prepared to give all respect to others can very easily always chant the holy name of the Lord.”
-Cc Adi 17.31

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Edit: there is a book entitled Bhakti-yoga and Islam by Airavata Dasa, if you have an interest in this subject (pro or con) maybe it would be a good idea to pick it up. I’ll be doing that shortly.

Classic ISKCON Tape #8 – Visnujana Swami – Aratik in New York City

After weeks of Hamsadutta, don’t you deserve some Visnujana? Why yes, I believe you do.

So here you go, a whole take of Visnujana Swami. And this is a real treat. My second favorite tape in the whole KT series (first favorite is KT-14, but we’ll get to that in a couple months).


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KT-8 Visnujana Swami – Aratik in New York City

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1. Visnujana Swami – Studio Recording
2. Hare Krishna Kirtan
3. Aratik in New York
4. Nrsinga Prayers
5. Hare Krishna Chant

The first side (tracks one and two) starts off with a 26 minute studio recording with Visnujana Swami at the helm. It’s really got some bass to it. Maybe it’s just the way that I mixed it from the tape, but you’re going to want to pull your bandanna down real low for this one.

Track two is pretty much just a guitar and female-led Hare Krishna bhajana. I’m not sure who the vocalist is, but Visnujana Swami is there in response. Great song and pretty heart-wrenching. I don’t usually go for the western instruments thing, but this isn’t at all bad.

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My favorite bit on this tape is this all acapella version of the Nsringa Prayers. It’s done in a call and response that sounds a lot like an old negro spiritual. This is really well done.

Probably added as filler, this two minute kirtana, also led by a woman (same women as track two?) is a bit strange in the melody department. It really sounds like something out of the 70’s (which it is). But I think I like it.

Anyway, glad to be able to bring you another edition of Classic ISKCON Tapes. Happy Saturday!

Humble obeisances to the fringies!

I moved to New Vrndavana in 1995 and was introduced to the term “fringie.” I was a new bhakta then, all fired up and judgmental of anyone who wasn’t. We’d talk about the fringies out on the ridge with their TVs and kids in public schools – they were practically demonized!

That is, until I got a chance to actually know them. I’d sit and listen to their stories of Olde Vrndavana, their pastimes with Srila Prabhupada, their advice on being a new devotee and making it to being an older devotee.

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For me, the term “fringie” stopped being an insult. It took on more of a Hall of Fame of great devotees. A fringie isn’t just someone on the outskirts of the movement. To me, a fringie is a real devotee. He put in his time at the temple, building it from nothing, building the community, sacrificing his health, wealth and life for Srila Prabhupada and ISKCON.

When I was a new bhakta I thought, “there is no way I would ever become a fringie!” But now I see the truth. I see that there is no way that I ever could become a fringie. I am no where near as advanced as they are. I haven’t done the service they have. I haven’t had the good times, the bad times and the transcendental times they’ve had. Simply put, I am not qualified to become a fringie.

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But here I find myself, poised to move back to New Vrndavana. While I’m there I will most definitely take the association of the glorious fringies on the ridge. Once again, I’ll be able to sit and listen to their stories, their pastimes and their advice. All the while knowing that I’ll never attain the glorious level of “fringie.”

My humble obeisances to you, dear fringies. All glories to your lives given up for devotional service!